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L-R: Amanda Knox's sister Deanna and mother Edda Mellas, and Amanda's UW friend, Madison Paxton, attend a reading of "Murder in Italy" by Seattle-area journalist Candace Dempsey who wrote the book. The reading took place at the University Book Store just blocks from the campus Amanda Knox attended before becoming an exchange student in Perugia, Italy.
Amanda Knox book reading near UW campus sparks emotions
Seattle area resident Candace Dempsey, journalist, and author of "Murder in Italy" which covers what Italians have coined "The Crime of the Century," the slaying of Meredith Kercher, the conviction of West Seattle UW student Amanda Knox, her boyfriend of six days, Raffaele Sollecito, and drifter Rudy Guede, spoke at the University Book Store just blocks from the campus Knox attended college prior to her move to study in Italy.
Over 60 people attended, including members of Knox's family and college friends. Dempsey read portions of her book and took questions. Most people asked about differences between the American and Italian court systems, Amanda's possible motive, DNA, and her upcoming appeal.
"I want my book to unfold like a movie," Dempsey told the audience. "It starts out chronologically with the dream and nightmare. The dream, of course, is the two beautiful young students who are in Perugia and have a wonderful time and are roommates there, and ends with the nightmare, Meredith is murdered. Amanda is arrested and convicted for the murder.
"I'll read from Amanda's diary," Dempsey continued. I's not really a diary, just letters written on some of the tons of paper and pens given to her when she was first held in prison. She was given a desk lamp, but no books. She wrote this letter to her mother two weeks after she was in prison, 'Please don't leave me here. I need you to get me out. I don't belong here. I miss my life. I love you.'"
Dempsey then read a short letter Knox wrote to her former boyfriend D.J., back in Seattle. Then Dempsey discussed the circumstances.
"An English tabloid leaked this letter," Dempsey said. "D.J. never received the letter. It appeared within minutes in British tabloids, but was altered, really garbled."
She read dialogue from her book spoken by Madison Paxton, one of Knox's best friends from UW. "Clothes are just things to wear, a blouse, pants, shoes," Paxton tells Dempsey, and continues, "That's how Amanda thinks. She gets up in the morning and puts things on. She gave away lots of clothes and other things before she left Seattle. She wanted to save room in her luggage for her hiking and mountain climbing gear. She thought she was going to take all these great side trips in Italy. She wanted to get out into the countryside. She was excited about that."
Dempsey told the West Seattle Herald that she felt it was important to appear at the University Book Store.
"This is where it all started," she said. "This is where Amanda Knox left to go to Perugia and it's also symbolic because the book is about college students."
"I have not read the book," said Amanda's mother, Edda Mellas, emotional after the talk. "I can't do it. It's just too close to me now. I think that's cool that Candace read at this book store. It seems like there are so many supportive people here."
"I've only actually been to this book store once, with Amanda when she first started college," recalled her sister Deanna. "I went to Western (Washington U.) for two years." That campus is a two hour drive north of Seattle.
Of the book reading, Deanna said, "It still feels weird to hear stuff like this. I don't believe it's my family. I still don't get it through my head even after almost three years that it's about Amanda. I think the talk was good. On July 9 Amanda will be 23. I'll turn 22 in December."
"I'm looking forward to reading this book," said Cassandra Knox, Amanda's step-mother. "I'm thinking this might have a more accurate picture than other books that are out there.
"My daughters are doing fine, but have a very hard time, especially every time something comes up and Amanda is in the news," Cassandra said, referring to Ashley and Delaney. "It's surfacing again with the June 1 date."
On June 1 Amanda Knox was scheduled to reappear in court to face slander charges for accusing the police of hitting her in the head while first being questioned.
"One daughter gets very angry and another just talks a lot about it," added Cassandra. "They have different ways of handling it. Curt's home now so it keeps everything good at home."
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Guilt or Innocence
Isn't this for courts of law to decide? Opinions are fine but some of you people are so convinced of one side or the other that it has become an obsession for you. Let it go for awhile.
Events will transpire as they will, completely without your input.
Follow Up On Curt, Amanda's Italian Lawyer & the UK Reporter
When will the WSH find out who was lying about Amanda's "tell all" interview for $$$ ?
Was it Curt? (He said it wasn't in the works.)
Was it Amanda''s Italian lawyer? (He said it was in the works & that he tried to tell Curt & Co. to back off but they weren't taking his advice.)
Or was it the UK reporter who interviewed Amanda's lawyer? (He still has NOT retracted his story on the Italian lawyer).
IF Curt is telling the truth, why hasn't he fired the Italian lawyer (Ghirga) & sued the UK reporter (Pisa)?
Candazz Dumbsay types for Edda
Of course Edda hasn't read Dumbsay's PR pamhlet!
Edda dictated its contents, Candazz just typed.
After the 60 or so friends & family members all buy a copy, what will they do with all of the unsold copies?
Please don't send them to the landfill, Edda - recycle them properly!
Has anyone asked why these
Has anyone asked why these 'diaries' are being written and disseminated? There is a story in the motive for writing and revealing (selling?) diaries and what the agenda is perhaps.
Diaries of Sociopaths
Why read the "diary" of anyone sitting in prison?
They know it's going to be confiscated & read.
It's self-serving garbage.
Or is it "news" the reporters at the WSH that everyone - EVERYONE - in jail claims to have been "wrongfully convicted"?
How do you guys expect to make the jump to a job with the big news outlets with naiveté like this?
If you're not careful, you're going to end up just like Dempsey: a 'never-was' trying to pass yourself off as a 'professional journalist' at the tender age of 60 by turning an amateur blog into a PR booklet for a spoiled brat trying to escape justice.
No one goes to J-school to do THAT.
I think Deanna needs a
I think Deanna needs a reality check, poor girl. I hope some of Candace's royalties go to some family therapy.
"Of the book reading, Deanna said, "It still feels weird to hear stuff like this. I don't believe it's my family. I still don't get it through my head even after almost three years that it's about Amanda."
Commenting Upgrades
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Registration might help though. Sometimes a few people want to look like many.
Amanda and Raffaele are innocent
It is past time for the US government to get involved. I spent over 1000 hours reviewing the evidence and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Amanda is innocent. We will not tolerate this.
The passport Amanda signed
The passport Amanda signed clearly indicates the role the US Gov't will take. If Amanda did not want to be judged by the Italian Justice System, she should not have committed heinous crimes in Italy. If she wanted to be judged under the US Constitution, Amanda should not have committed crimes in a foreign jurisdiction.
Isn't this for courts of law to decide?
Isn't this for courts of law to decide?
Yes, it's supposed to be. But sometimes in democracies justice doesn't work and there is a need for the public to come in and do something about it.
Perhaps the first thing to know about this case is that Italian law does not allow publication of the trial record to the Internet. The reason for this law is to shield a corrupt and dysfunctional judicial system from public scrutiny.
There absolutely is a place for the public to come in and see for themselves if justice has been done. That is why in the United States and in other democracies the trial record is open to the public.
This was a show trial and a kangaroo court. The Italian people have an obligation to rise up and reverse this judicial outrage.
The trial record IS open.
The trial record IS open. Italy doesn't need Americans scrutinizing anything.
The proceedings were
The proceedings were scrutinized by the US Embassy in Rome. They saw no problems, nothing to protest about. They're guilty, all 3.
PhanuelB, What information
PhanuelB,
What information is it that you are lacking about the crime and trial?
Trial Record Not Open
By Italian law the Motivation Document and the "judge" Micheli report are available to the public and they are available on the internet.
There is to my knowledge not one other trial document in its original unaltered form on the Internet for the public to inspect. In the United States non-sealed court documents are available to the public and can be published to the Internet or anywhere else without limitation. In addition it needs to be the documents we select not ones that somebody else chooses.
When I looked at the TJMK site they stated clearly that actual trial documents could not be published. Yes or no are they right?
See the case of Carlo Parlanti, an Italian in jail in California who many Italians think is innocent. Documents from his case, chosen by the defense, are available for download in pdf format from sites friendly to him.
A partial list of documents I'd like to see
1) Complaint
2) Discovery request for interrogation evidence and prosecution response
3) Cristian Tramontano Statement
4) Any testimony claiming mixed blood
5) Jury Instructions
6) Juror screening questions
7) Discovery request and prosecution response for fsa file evidence.
What kills me about all of this is that corrupt public officials have distributed actual autopsy photos to the public yet when you read the "judge" Micheli report they think they have to replace names like "Knox" and "Kercher" with abbreviations. The Motivation Document names each of the jurors and the TLC documentary shows their faces.
Italy doesn't need Americans scrutinizing anything? Too bad if they don't like.
Homer, If there was no
Homer,
If there was no evidence, as many suggest, you wouldn't need to spend 25 hours on this, let alone 50, let alone 100, let alone one *THOUSAND* hours on the case. Lets also examine what one thousand hours would entail - lets suggest you did 2 hours a day - a huge commitment, 2 hours a day, 5 days a week without break for holidays personal, public or otherwise. That would be 1000/2 = 500 days you had to spend 2 solid hours a day on which is 500*7/5 = a 700 day time span if you have 2 days a week off. Since Amanda went on trial in January 2009 and there were only two trial days a week in an average week producing "evidence" rather than hearsay, I think we can see your thousand hours is looking enormously unlikely. Thousand hours of hanging around and drinking the kool-aid since the beginning of the arrest and thinking you have a theory about why Amanda didn't do it despite 19 judges' review and 6 juror's conviction? Perhaps despite the hyperbole. A thousand hours on *evidence* when the judge's report isn't even out? Pfft...
Typical hype. Typically untrue. Busted.
Isn't the monitoring by US
Isn't the monitoring by US Embassy staff enough for you? No one has to satisfy *you*. Too bad if you don't like.
Phanuel As an extremely
Phanuel
As an extremely regular poster on this topic, you are aware that the PMF translation of the 450+ page report will be out within a month or so. This has taken a phalanx off fluent italian / english speakers several months to do in the name of seeking justice for Meredith Kercher and also anyone else involved in this case.
It's a translation which the pro-Amanda camp *has not sort fit to do*. Why have they not?
Surely if the case were paper thin, so useless and immaterial and this was a "railroading from hell" by a judicial system with no credibility, then translating the report would be the biggest single contributor to "proving" Amanda's "innocence" wouldn't it because it would expose the "fragility" of the case against them? Right? Inarguable isn't it?
Except for the campaign for Amanda, despite spending near a million dollars on PR hasn't translated the one document that sums up the entire case against her and Raffaele. Why would that be? Would it be that actually the Italian report is quite devastating in its detail and its content and that wouldn't work very well at all for the case for the homeland PR defense if put in English for all to see? The answer is self-evidently - yes.
I've read the report in deep draft several times. When it's out it will devastate the false PR of the campaign. The hysteria of the PR campaign about jack-boots, railroading and the rest of it will become its own self-defeating hyperbole. The edifice of huge exaggeration you have created about the "unfairness" of the trial will become your own downfall against the solidity of what is evidently a hugely detailed rationale for the conviction prepared by experienced judges with enormous multi-hundred page detail on everything from cellphone records (inarguable - damning), computer records (inarguable - damning) to the DNA you love to dispute.
It really is the ultimate irony that the rabidity of your exaggeration in the name of the defense about how unfair / ill-judged the case against Amanda has "been" will become you biggest undoing when the translation is made available. The sheer detail, content and evidential content will decimate the idiocy of the "no case to answer" stance taken by so many on the supporters side. If you'd been remotely balanced and positioned it could have worked. But having taken such an extreme illogical stance of "no evidence", the denouement is going to be deeply painful for you. You don't have to agree - you won't - you're denialists - but the no-case-to-answer-stance is going to look utterly farcical.
6+3=11
MERSDITH KERCHER'S TIME OF DEATH: 6+3=11
FROM JUDGE MICHELI'S REPORT: Starting with the investigations, the Public Prosecutor and the Judicial Police proceeded to reconstruct the movements of the girl [ Meredith ] in the last hours of life, it is also the assumptions made by CT coroner point of time of death, to be placed at a distance of no more than 2 or 3 hours after last meal, and would probably be understood took place at around 23:00 [ 11 pm ]
FROM JUDGE MICHELI'S REPORT: On 17 November, P. [Sophie Purton] made a new prosecuting magistrate deposition, confirming the initial statements without time to clarify where the four friends had begun to eat in the house of A. [ Amy Frost] and R.[Robyn Butterworth] (perhaps 18:00 [ 6 pm ]
Note: Meredith was one of the four friends that ate at 6 pm.
Those not familiar with this case may ask why 6+3=11. It is because when the crime lab analyzed Raffaele's hard drive they determined he logged on the intrnet at 9:10 pm, and he watched a cartoon until 9:46 pm, so the authorities had to establish a time of death when Amanda and Raffaele did not have an alibi. So 6+3=11.
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I found this "10 p.m.-11p p.m. Time of death, based on the last cellphone call".
Meredith Kercher timeline: Her last 12 hours
blog.seattlepi.com
By Candace Dempsey
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THE FOLLOWING IS FROM PART 4 MOTIVATION DOCUMENT:
The reconstruction for which the death of Meredith is located a few minutes after 23.30 is also confirmed in the data as it tanatocronologici has already had occasion to note, as well as in the following circumstances highlighted in relevant chapters:
English of the phone 22:13:19 Meredith had a connection to the GPRS duration of 9 seconds, under the cover of the cell Wind with the final number 30064th compatible with the Chamber of Meredith's house Via mail neil'abitazione della Pergola 7, the next phone contact that same cell takes place at 0:10:13 on the day November 2, 2007 and the cell is attached with the final number 25622nd giving coverage to the villa in Via Sperandio and is incompatible with the house on Via della Pergola.
Consequently at 22:13:19 This situation was still calm and Meredith P may themselves fiddling with his cell phone seconds As you have seen in the chapter devoted to the examination of English phone memory of Meredith; 0:10:31 to the phone was not in the house in Via della Pergola: a hour Meredith must have been killed and then seized and its phones thrown away.
Note: This is so stupid I can believe anyone would be expected to buy into this fairytale. Are we to believe Meredith "fiddling" with her phone hung up immediately as she was receiving a text message, accidentally called her voice-mail and immediately hung up and accidentally called her bank in the UK and and accidentally entered the wrong area code for the UK. Give me a break. I'm not that stupid. Meredith was killed around 9 pm just like the state's coroner's report said . All the evidence points to this. The imaginary evidence indicates she was killed at 11:31 pm however there is no evidence that indicates this is the actual time of death. NOTHING AT ALL.
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I've spent over 1000 hours studying the evidence. After collecting the evidence and connecting the dots the following is my conclusion.
A lot of hard work, as intended, is required to understand what happened, but what happened is very simple. Guede was desperate for money because the cops caught him with items he stole from a law office, and he needed get out of town! Guede watched the girl's secluded apartment several days, then one evening around 8:40 pm, Nov 1, 2007, he busted the window, and climbed in a few minutes before Meredith unexpectedly came home. He was just getting started plundering Filomena's room when he had the need to go to the toilet. When he heard Meredith come in he got quiet. She borrowed Amanda's lamp as she walked to her room, not knowing he was there. She called her mom from her room at 8:56 pm and seconds later he surprise attacked her, interrupting the call before her mom could answer. Guede ended the call and very soon he ended her life. He acted alone out of greed and desperation. This is exactly what all the evidence points to. See injusticeinperugia.org/index.html for the truth.
Phanuel
Curios how such anger arises through your dialogue about said report of antidotes of cell phones and bathrooms that lacks bedroom evidence. This is an argument between murder by association and evidentiary murder. Fascist nationalism began in Italy, it's a political, racist, party affiliation beast that involves clergy, workers and government nationalist alignment. It is interesting how two writers sat through every day of the 11 months and in the end claimed they knew no more than when they started. It's interesting that why the press was bar-B Queing Amanda before and during the trial you were no where to be heard as a voice of let the court do it's job. There is pure hatred by Miginini for this young women yet I hear nothing of a query in you as to why? Many Americans view this circumstance as a kidnapping, and pirating, covered up by a created and orchestrated legal action, Nationalism an unwillingness to admit mistakes. Amanda Knox had no reason to harm Meridith Kercher and as such did not, what's Italy's excuse for attacking an American family?
wrong
As an American citizen the constitution follows Amanda where ere she goes. The deal is why does America need to monitor is there some question of Italy since it's decision in 1963 to embrace socialism? You bet! Don't like it? To bad!
BUSTED
Actually about 85% of that evidence as well as witnesses was shot down, left for fodder, removed from fact. Fact is the persecutor brought as much forward to mesmerize and disassociate the court from the facts. Facts are Amanda Knox was not found nor indicated to be in the bedroom where Meridith was slain. Does she belong in the bathroom? Hallway? House? Yes! Who doesn't belong there? That is your catalyst. That is what changed in Meridiths life. It wasn't her roommates it was another, and uninvited. Evidence and fact as to who was the outsider, the fast moving car, the gun carrier, the water and exposed electrical point. The police and the prosecutor have done so much harm to the Kerchers Sollecito's and Knox's that Italy has had no way out. Remember what the Jurist said after the verdict, We had no choice! That says it all, with the elimination of choice the verdict is rendered skewed.
"The Crime of the Century" is the right term!
The Italians really nailed it when they referred to this as "The Crime of the Century"!
It's a crime what was done to Amanda Knox by her merciless interrogators during her brutal all-night interrogation session.
It's a crime that Amanda and Raffaele were both conviced of murder when neither was shown by the prosecution team to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
It's a crime that Amanda, after having only shared part of what was done to her at interrogation that night, should be hauled into court to be sentenced to six years in maximum security. I view this as a threat directed to Amanda to stay quiet about the parts of the interrogation she didn't share....or else!
It's a crime that Amanda's mom and day are being threated with prison time for doing everything in their power to protect their innocent child who's been mistreated, abused, and tortured by those determined to break this girl barely out of her teenage years to their will and make her say the words they wanted her to say.
It's a crime that the person whose DNA is found all over the crime scene and inside the battered and tortured body of the victim has had his sentece reduced...why???
"The Crime of the Century" is a series of crimes, and these crimes harm innocents in many lands and will be remebered on tv, in movies, in books, and in magazines and newspapers until 2101 and beyond....!
Coming soon to a mockery of justice near you !!
Coming soon to a mockery of justice near you !! June 1st Perugia will host the new slander charges against Amanda Knox. Laying on the vindictive vendetta charges against her nice and thick.
I don't know how they plan on making it stick. Perhaps they will drag in the 30 odd officers that signed the 'confession' that morning to state that they were ALL there to get their name in on bringing her down. Were all of them there surrounding Amanda and asking her questions in Italian ?
Of course, someone might ask them why they didn't suggest she get a lawyer or suggest that they tape the interrogation. That is a lot of people to have forgotten .....
Perhaps they will stick with the core group who were actually there during the interrogation. Again, if they only taped the interrogation as required it would prove that Amanda is big liar, or maybe it would show something else. hummm.
somealibi - knives
Somealibi,
Just so curious, do knives really come in different sizes ? Some big and some small ?
Wow.
Amanda Knox
Could not have said it better myself.
Hear hear all deniers of Ms. Knox's guilt!
Read the motivations report all you FOA-ers, and then we shall see what response you can reasonably come up with.
Amanda Knox
Mistreated, abused and tortured?!
Where pray tell do you derive your assertions?
Amanda and her family have already backed off from the "policeman hit her on the head" nonsense. She is actually going to trial once again for slander. She has since retracted this false accusation.
Her interrogation was fair and she was treated well. She was given food and drink and there is absolutely noone who can say that she was "tortured".
Please cite your sources.
Otherwise you come off as just a crank blowing a lot of hyperbole
Amanda Knox
Actually Amanda's DNA was found mixed with Meredith's blood in the bathroom and in Filonena's room.
This was proven by DNA testing; there is no room for doubt.
How can you explain that away??
Amand Knox
The juror said that because the evidence was so massive and undenaible that they had no choice but to cinvict.
Wait till you read the judges' report; then come crying about poor Amanda.
juror statement
Juror statement - "It was hard to envision Knox doing this," she said. "But it is possible. … We can all drink too much, then get in a car and drive."
So in this Juror's mind it is POSSIBLE that she did it - so she is guilty ? It is possible that each of us might drive drunk or participate in as satanic sex cult murder. Therefore we are all guilty ? What is up with this Juror ! Why doesn't she say but the evidence proved it ? What is up with Italy's judicial system. Is everything run as poorly as this trial ?!
"evidence was so massive and undenaible" - not so much.
Joann - Knives
Not only do knives come in different sizes, they are designed for different purposes. Some are general purpose and can be used to cut an apple, carve initials, or whittle wood. Others are specifically designed for mercenaries who want to get the upper hand in a fight, or for neurotic young boys with socio-sexual hangups who are trying to convince themselves and others that they are not mama's boys. I guess we all know where Raff fits in.
The 1000 Hour Club
Ladies and gentlemen we have in our midst not one but two people, Homer and a long winded Guest, who have each devoted over 1000 hours of their precious time to a cause that will have exactly zero impact on their lives, or the life of their obsession. It must be nice to be blessed with so much leisure time.
And I find it rather amusing that our long winded legal eagle believes that he has uncovered the one piece of iron-clad evidence that proves Raffaele's innocence. I guess that papa Sollecito wasted two years on the finest defense attorneys that money could buy.
Violation of Amanda's Human Rights
Why have all the high powered journalists missed that because of the violation of Amanda Knox's basic human rights under multilateral treaty obligations the U.S. state department has a real reason to become involved.
"The U.S. is not obligated by custom or treaty to ignore a situation where the basic human rights of a citizen as defined by the UN and/or other Multilateral agreements governing the treatment of an American citizen accused of a crime. Under the UN’s ICCPR(International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights) and the Council of Europe, Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners Resolution, Amanda Knox had her right violated in four ways: She was denied freedom while awaiting trial by being held in a maximum security prison; She was brutally interrogated; She was denied access an adequate interpreter; and, she was denied access to an attorney"
Could you confirm what
Could you confirm what 'brutal interrogation' is, just so I can heck whet I read and what you read come from the same sources.
Back on topic Phanuel
So, Phanuel, interesting ramble, if really quite hard to follow.
But hate to be a party pooper and drag the conversation away from fascism and whatever a cellphone antidote is(???) - let's go back to the question I asked you - why has the campaign for Amanda not translated the court report since it is so eager to impress the english speaking world of Amanda's innocence and has such spent such an incredible amount of money on it? If the case is so lacking in evidence, if it is such a railroading, if its all just a monstrous amateur hour run by the jackboots, that would be transparent in the judge's report, right? Why haven't they translated it?
Obvious answer. It's a 450 page bomb waiting to go off under the 'no case to answer' camp. And it really is.
The Constitution doesn't
The Constitution doesn't follow you around the world. What the hell are you talking about?
And which is it, the Italians are evil because they're fascists, or because they're socialists?
You sound like a howling crazy person with some issue or other that gives you a massive chip on your shoulder.
The US gov't monitored because it was requested. They found nothing untoward. What they saw was a guilty US citizen convicted on the evidence according to the rules.
No protests, nothing, from the diplomats.
A guest wrote....
"Amanda and her family have already backed off from the "policeman hit her on the head" nonsense. She is actually going to trial once again for slander. She has since retracted this false accusation.
Her interrogation was fair and she was treated well. She was given food and drink and there is absolutely noone who can say that she was "tortured".
"Please cite your sources.
Otherwise you come off as just a crank blowing a lot of hyperbole."
I would like to see the citations for the claims you made about Amanda and her family retracting their allegations about her being hit on the head.
SomeAlibi wrote...
".... why has the campaign for Amanda not translated the court report since it is so eager to impress the english speaking world of Amanda's innocence and has such spent such an incredible amount of money on it? If the case is so lacking in evidence, if it is such a railroading, if its all just a monstrous amateur hour run by the jackboots, that would be transparent in the judge's report, right? Why haven't they translated it?
"Obvious answer. It's a 450 page bomb waiting to go off under the 'no case to answer' camp. And it really is."
I doubt the Friends of Amanda has the funds to pay translators. They could probably try to find people to do it for free, like the guilters have, but maybe they don't know that many people with so much time on their hands.
The term "bomb" is appropriate here. From what I have seen of the report so far, it's a big dud.
Casey, Amanda, "Human Rights"
Casey Anthony was arrested in Oct. 2008.
By the time her trial beings in May 2011, she will have been in jail for almost 3 years.
Will you then say the State of Florida "denied her freedom while awaiting trial" and in so doing violated her "human rights"?
Alas, Casey could learn a lot from Amanda (even though she is facing a lot less evidence than Amanda did).
Casey could claim that her lies to police were the result of her being "confused" and "stressed" when the police were so cruel as to ask her the same questions repeatedly & accuse her of lying (The bastards!)
Casey could claim - at the trial - that she was cuffed in the back of her head while questioned. (Amanda waited until her trial to spring that excuse, so Casey can still pull this move, too.)
Casey could claim her lies, inconsistencies, omissions, half-truths & memory problems were the result of having smoked some weed.
Casey could claim that her attempts to pin the blame on others were the result of 'leading suggestions' by police during a grueling 1.5 hour interrogation with only 2 bathroom breaks, 2 cakes & 2 cups of tea. (Such twisted depravity!)
Casey could claim that all of the forensic evidence is either contaminated or planted (unless it points to someone else).
Despite all of the evidence, Casey could hire Anne Bremner to go on HLN and say there's "NO EVIDENCE!"
Casey could hire the Marriott firm to push the idea that the real victim is Casey, not Caylee - that Casey is the victim of "a rail road job from hell" by a "corrupt & mentally unstable" prosecutor named Jeff Ashton, who became bewitched by her incredible beauty...
On second thought, maybe Casey should try telling the truth, paying her debt & seeking forgiveness...
After all, Casey is in a tougher spot: she didn't have the good fortune to go thanatos in Italy, where the legal system is far too refined to rely on anything so barbaric as the DP.
Human Rights. Indeed.
Context of Interrogation
In America we have a "Beyond reasonable doubt " standard is used in criminal(felony) trials. It doesn't exist in Italy. When evidence is missing or damaged it is the responsibility of the police. The mandatory interrogation video tapes of Amanda's interrogation were never made, deliberately destroyed, or misplaced. If she is being accused of slander in a criminal proceeding in a judicial system in which the accused is presumed innocent( standard of Italian law), the burden of proof of the correctness of her interrogation is the burden of the police. Amanda should not have to prove that she was mistreated. As a kid of the sixties I'm convinced that the Italian pigs deliberately destroyed the interrogation tape to protect themselves.
Context of Interrogation
So where are the objections from the US government? Or Italian civil rights advocates?
2000 Hours
I've studied this case for over 2000 hours and I'm convinced that "Mary H" is a wretched human being & I'd give a week's pay to see what she looks like.
No application by the
No application by the defense lawyers to the European Court of Human Rights?
Bad Analogy
The analogy between the Casey Anthony case and Amanda's is a poor one.
When police find out about a mother who used to have a three year old and doesn't have her anymore and hasn't told anyone about it, that's a big deal.
Beyond that as I understand it the evidence against her is weak.
Amanda's case was an ordinary sexually motivated homicide of a woman in her prime by a troubled male. It probably happens about once a day somewhere in the world.
In the Casey Anthony case police had every right to be suspicious of Ms. Anthony although they are having difficulty finding more evidence.
In Amanda's case competent investigators should have seen that given the vast evidence against Rudy Guede that Amanda's involvement would have been extraordinary. Everything police found with regard to AK and RS could be explained in ways unrelated to the crime.
Amanda the false victim
That is sadly what all the evidence does NOT point to.
How do you explain Amand's DNA mixed with Meredith's blood in several places?
How do you explain the double DNA knife?
How do you explain the lovers' lies, as ascertained by computer and phone records, about their whereabouts that night, and her falsely accusingt Patrik Lumumba?
How do you explain the staged crime scene?
And how do you explain Raffaelo's "copious" amount of DNA on Meredith's bra clasp?
How do you explain how it was possible for Guede to climb up to that window, leaving no traces on the window sill even after he allegedly broke the window?
Your 1000 hrs of poring over the evidence should make these answers easy for you to come up with.
Innocent people don't get confused about their whereabouts when questioned about the murder. They don't have to "remember the best truth that they can", nor confuse their deams with what really happened..
Proof is that the other two roommmates had solid alibis and were immediately released.
B.S. Phanuel. Just what is
B.S. Phanuel.
Just what is your agenda?
Who is this sad murderer to you?
No body was fascist at the trial; no one harbored "pure hatred" (why should they?) for Amanda personally; no one kidapped her- on the contrary she showed up uninvited when Raffaelo was being questioned at the police station; and anyway just what exactly is "murder by association"?
Why not try addressing the evidence clearly and dispassionately??
Why not take up the judges' report when it comes out?
Why are youy lying through your ears???a
Why no Translation?
One of the reasons I haven't worked on it is that somebody else will do it. I was able get it OCRed and Google translated so I've got something I can read and I have read quite a bit of it. It struck me as conclusory, superficial and lacking in substance.
There are a couple of important points to be made:
1) It isn't going to change any minds on either side. The fact is that major news organizations would long ago have reported anything new or of substance in the document.
2) I'm not interested in the documents that somebody else thinks I need. I want the documents that I choose. And that means the trial record. The only reason that this information is not available to the public is because a corrupt and dysfunctional Italian judicial system does not want public scrutiny of their work.
3) Major news organizations have looked at this case and gathered facts. Commentators from CNN and CBS have condemned this tribunal in unprecedented terms. They have used words like "public lynching" and "kangaroo court." This is how democracies work. Every citizen can't drop everything and study it full time. We depend on trusted news media outlets to do it for us.
Double Standard?
The police had "every right to be suspicious of Ms. Anthony" despite the fact that had "difficulty finding more evidence," yet when it comes to Ms. Knox, the police have no right to be suspicious despite the fact they had no problem finding "more evidence"?!
That's a strange one "PhanuelOCD"!
The Florida SAO only wishes it had:
Recanted confession.
False accusation of innocent black man.
Admitted intoxication with narcotics to point of memory loss.
Bloody shoeprint in murder room
DNA of boyfriend on victim's undergarment.
DNA of victim on 1 of 2 murder weapons w/ DNA of Casey on handle.
Boyfriend disposed of knives like weapon #2 before cops got warrant.
Shifting alibis/ cat & mouse (allegation/withdraw allegation/ repeat) games with co-accused.
Footprints in luminol.
Mixed blood.
Mixed blood/ DNA.
Eye witnesses.
Ear witnesses.
Wound on neck/ blood from ear.
Lies revealed by computer record.
Lies revealed by phone record.
History of building resentments (cleaning, strangers, job, promiscuity, Giacomo)
History of increasingly antisocial behavior (Seattle arrest, sex with 3-7 Italian strangers in 6 weeks/ post about toilet sex on train where family can see it, narcotics abuse, quit job in Germany, etc.)
Preoccupation with rape (publishing rape fiction on line & while in prison)/ dating a boy with collection of knives & Japanese rape comics/ rape at knife point fetish/ Rumor of "rape prank" at UW (ski masks + knives)
ETC.
(esp. how she lied about not only knowing Rudy, but smoking dope with him more than once during her 6 weeks B4 arrest)
PhanuelB + MaryH
These 2 should get together.
If they were able to create viable offspring (and that's a HUGE, "if") I wonder what they'd be like...
Would they be given to the obsessive compulsive repetition of lists?
Or would they prefer demanding citations from everyone?
They might even be a dreadful 'hybrid': "Here is my list that proves I am right. I made a mistake?! You are a liar, show me your source! [Ignore citation. Repeat.] Here is my list...show me your source...here is my list...show me your source...."
One thing is for certain: They'd occupy the space beneath the lowest rung of "the intellectual ladder."
If she still stands by her
If she still stands by her accusations, then her lawyers would be pounding the courtroom in defense of this very serious allegation against the police.
Not one of her lawyers took up this case; that family has stopped declaring that she was hit....I believe it is only that clown Chris Mellas who still spouts this lie.
The FOA-ers sure seem desperate.
Wait till the report comes out; it will put to rest wankers like yourself .