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LATE SATURDAY AT ALKI. There was no rowdiness or loud music when this photo was taken at 11:30 Saturday night on Alki Avenue, across from the beach and near restaurants under fire by some neighbors for disruptions and noise, and subject to a potential city ordinance that would classify restaurants with entertainment after 10 p.m. as nightclubs. Photo by Amber Trillo.

Proposed nightlife law opposed

Tuesday, August 22, 2006

Some West Seattle bar and restaurant owners say they are opposed to a draft proposal from Mayor Greg Nickels that would force establishments to get a special nightclub license and meet stricter noise and safety requirements.

Some also say the proposal and would give the city too much regulatory authority.

Gerry Kingen, owner of Salty's on Alki, said he's ready to battle Nickels' proposal "tooth and nail."

"If Nickels wants a fight we'll take it out on the street," said Kingen. "I don't like government meddling. Even good intentions can go awry."

The city defines a nightclub as any business that after 10 p.m. has "amplified live entertainment, or recorded music conducted by a disc jockey, sells liquor and has an occupant load of 50 or more people."

The proposal outlines a series of operating rules, such as requiring business owners to patrol within 100 feet of their establishment starting at least 30 minutes before and after closing time. Staff must also prevent people from entering the club with weapons or illegal drugs.

A license could also be taken away if sound coming from a nightclub or an adjacent area is heard from "inside a residence or business for a continuous period of 20 seconds or longer."

The mayor feels the proposal is necessary because of increased tensions between the growing number of residents, businesses and entertainment venues in Seattle, said James Keblas, director of the mayor's Office of Film and Music.

The mayor's nightlife task force met with city officials last week to discuss the proposal. At the meeting, a new lobbying group comprised of some bar and club owners throughout Seattle submitted a list of their concerns to the task force. A new proposal is expected from the mayor within the next few weeks and could be presented to the Seattle City Council by the end of September.

"A lot more conversation still needs to happen before any final documents get proposed as legislation to the city council," said Keblas. "I can assure you the mayor wants a vibrant and safe nightlife scene and music industry in Seattle."

But as the ordinance is written now, Salty's, which has live music two nights a week and closes by 11:30 p.m., would be considered a nightclub.

"We have a trio band and a piano player," said Kingen. "To call us a nightclub is just ludicrous."

Several bar owners across the city have similar concerns. The Seattle Nightlife and Music Association, which formed to fight the proposal's "onerous regulations," is largely concerned with a portion of the ordinance that grants extensive powers to the city, said Tim Hatley, a lobbyist hired by the industry group.

The ordinance gives the director of the city's Department of Executive Administration the discretion to establish conditions in addition to the operating rules, such as requiring a certain number of security guards and even limiting times and days of entertainment.

"There's no parameters--there's nothing in this ordinance that promotes a vibrant nightlife in Seattle," Hatley said. "The noise ordinance is a very subjective and non-measurable standard."

The ordinance would also create a city appointed nightclub advisory board, comprised of residents and nightclub licensees to work with the clubs on compliance of the new rules. But most of the regulatory authority would still fall to city departments, rather than an independent group, said Hatley.

Some business owners think the proposal is a direct result of the influence some neighborhood activists-who are upset about noise in their communities-have on the city. Kingen believes the ordinance is being driven by "powerful groups of community members with an agenda."

"There is a very proactive community on Alki that gets rabid three months out of the year because people come to enjoy a public park," he said. "The politicians are pandering to these neighborhood groups. They are their constituents. But you still have to have reason, fairness and equity."

Bonnie David, a managing partner for Salty's on Alki and president of the Aki Business Group, said she's concerned the cost of paying for more security and soundproofing would hurt smaller businesses.

"It might topple them over," she said.

The cost of hiring extra security would be enough to shut down the Rocksport Bar and Grill on Southwest Alaska Street, said the owner Dan Beeman.

"There's no question it would hurt my business," Beeman said. "It's a night and day deal. There's no way we could comply, I just don't see it being possible."

Club owners want increased security in and around their establishments, but police surveillance around the West Seattle Junction bars is nearly non-existent, said Beeman.

"The number of liquor licenses in the area has gone up but there's no police presence," he said. "It would be great if (the police) would just walk through once in a while."

In addition to the proposed ordinance, the city's Department of Planning and Development has begun requiring several bars and restaurants to obtain a drinking establishment permit because of noise complaints. Those permits require additional limitations and stricter noise standards.

The city has also tried to get several establishments in Seattle, including Slices on Alki, to sign Good Neighbor Agreements. Through such legally binding contracts, businesses agree to a list of rules that address community concerns negotiated between the city, residents and business owners.

But Keblas said the mayor is proposing to do away with "subjective Good Neighbor Agreements" and instead impose the new operating standards to solve problems between residents and club owners.

Salty's Kingen said bars and restaurants that are disturbing residents should be addressed, but that the new ordinance is overreaching.

"There are already all kinds of inherent consequences for stupid behavior built into the system, we don't need more," he said. "We already have noise ordinances--just enforce the damn things."

Rebekah Schilperoort can be reached at wseditor@robinsonnews.com


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heather wrote on Aug 29, 2006 2:35 PM:

" I'm sorry maybe, I misunderstood you- the bar owners are responsible for people becoming intoxicated? It seems to me that if residents were really concerend about the noise level, or drunken driving a simple phone call to the police with a license plate number would be massively effective. Remember neighbors, everytime you allow government to regulate the peoples actions you give up a little bit more of your personal freedom. Enforce the regulation that are there, ID EVERYONE, and keep government out of my down time!!! "

C Miller wrote on Aug 25, 2006 3:30 PM:

" Jerry Kingen will battle the mayors proposal tooth and nail! I don't think so. He can't fight anything as long as he's using a public street end for his own personal parking lot for his restraunt. "

Meinert wrote on Aug 25, 2006 12:28 PM:

" The bar owners aren't complaining, because it doesn't apply to them. It only applies to places with music. The Mayor is ignoring complaints from residents, and is shitting on the music community at the same time. This ordinance does nothing but try to make music venues do the jobs of the police. It will not decrease noise caused by people on the street, and it does nothing to stop overservice. Club owners want safe neighborhoods too, and we don't mind new regulations. But this issue needs to be looked at holistically, and one of the biggest issues that the City won't address is the need for more Police. More Police enforcing existing laws would benefit everyone. Residents and businesses should be working together on this and we should be able to have great reisdential nieghborhoods and a thriving nightlife scene at the same time. Residents - don't be fooled by this ordinance, it will do nothing to help you. It WILL help make sure there is less music in Seattle. "

Sam Fowler wrote on Aug 24, 2006 8:04 AM:

" I have seen a draft of the Mayor's proposal, and no one in their right mind could support it because it would be impossible to comply with. What kills me is that all of these so called "concerned" residents accuse the restaurants and bars of not enforcing noise and liquor laws without anything to back their accusations up with. No restaurant and bar owner has any incentive whatsoever to overserve patrons in the way Mr. Kruzich accuses - there are very strict rules preventing this already and the penalties for violating these laws are staggering. I don't think most residents realize that there are already hundreds of rules and ordinances in place. If a particular restaurant or bar was truly serving too much, they would be issued a violation. If they were too noisy, they would be cited. Making false accusations doesn't help anyone, and painting a clearly biased picture is irresponsible. "

eric middleton wrote on Aug 23, 2006 9:41 AM:

" I would vote against the proposal. I think if you take care of the underage drinking, the rest would take care of itself. "

Dan Kruzich wrote on Aug 22, 2006 10:43 PM:

" I support the Mayor's proposal. The bar owners are complaining about the reaction coming from their own failure to regulate the alcohol served to their customers. The bars are over serving way too much. Their customers leave weaving down the sidewalks. I cringe to think of these people getting into their cars and driving home. The Mayor rules will help control behavior the bar owners refuse to accept responsibility for. "

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